CC meeting 15 December 2014

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COMBUSTION CHAMBER MEETING: Monday, December 15, 2014

Facilitator
Doug
Stack
Henry
Scribe
Chim-Chim
Attendees (22)
Doug, Henry, Chim-Chim, St. Tiki, Gyseka, Ren, Onako, Princess, Pat, Prost, Kate, Clovis, Problem, Izzi, Adam, Monkey, Turtlebunnie, Pixie, Decibel, Bonobo, Psyche, Beth

8:09pm MEETING BEGINS

LLC UPDATE

  • Mass Gathering Permit (MGP)
  • Discussion before end of the year
  • In process
  • Getting announcement on ticket price and window before end of year
  • SHORTEST LLC UPDATE EVER!!!

8:12pm AF UPDATE (Ren)

  • Leads-All-Hands occurred last Saturday
  • Approximately 30 in attendance
  • Well received
  • Have some brand new Leads as well as existing

8:14pm TOPIC: CC TRAINING CURRICULUM (Turtlebunnie)

  • Concept: Process Manual
  • Ideas to go in manual are welcome
  • Would love to see stuff from retreat
  • Possibility of having a CC mentor?
  • Possibility of designating one CC meeting to a training session
  • Currently soliciting ideas for what needs to be trained on
  • Good idea to toss out idea through email lists
  • To be a CC member, you should know blacksmithing
  • Idea for manual: Put into .pdf format and download to all Leads for access; Use some sort of distributable content (e.g. Google doc) as an idea; Utilize multiple formats

8:18pm MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO MOVE INPUT ON THINGS FOR TRAINING TO ‘LIST’; NO BLOCKS AT THIS TIME

8:18pm TOPIC: FUTURE OF SAFETYCIDE (Princess)

  • The increased budget will be spent on food (over $3,000 approx.)
  • Safety teams do a good job running it (Ghost, Sara, Mark, Jess, Sparky, etc.)
  • In the future, they may have to do some re-organizational rearranging
  • AAR did not cook breakfast last year so that they could attend trainings
  • Lunch was provided
  • This year, AAR met with Safetycide organizers
  • 20 people attended from out-of-the-region
  • Spending money on Safetycide is good for Flipside
  • Many who come from other regionals also volunteer for Flipside

8:24pm MOTION TO CLOSE STACK ON SAFETYCIDE

8:25pm TOPIC: LASERS (Adam)

  • When laser is shined on you, you will blink
  • One simply cannot tell [lasers] apart
  • During the burn of burnable art at Burning Man 2014, a Ranger was permanently blinded in one eye
  • Researched on eplaya, and found cautionary discussions going back 10 years
  • People have been worrying, and now this [blinded Ranger] has happened
  • Burning Man will be issuing protective eyewear to Rangers in the future
  • Discussion on installed lasers at Flipside
    • Possibility of getting blinded by lasers can happen to us
    • Even if we decide to ban lasers, it would be impractical to enforce that
    • Adding more rules is not our way of doing business
    • If people are going around flashing lasers in a wreckless way, then we can train them
    • If they persist, then we have other means to deal with the issue
    • It is possible to go out and buy a laser powered meter, but it’s too expensive to provide for the Rangers
    • There is currently a policy on lasers stated in the Survival Guide; However, we may have to look at it again
    • The Burning Man policy on lasers is currently under review
    • Green lasers at 5mW may not be eye-safe.
    • Red-colored lasers under 5 mW are considered eye-safe, but labeling is unreliable.
  • Suggestion has been made on having a conversation on banning lasers
    • It wouldn’t be a rule in itself if it weren’t a considerable safety issue
    • Losing eyesight is a high risk and a real threat
  • Consider changing wording in Survival Guide
    • Confiscation policy similar to sound—Take away if it arises
  • Opposed to new rules, but hesitant on personal use of lasers not being part of an art installation or theme camp
  • Lasers should be allowed for fixed display units; Only allow on fixed installations or commercial units
  • Possible registration of lasers similar to art cars
  • One cannot tell people that lasers are dangerous when there are art cars and giant art pieces
    • There are lots of dangerous things at Flipside
    • Part of the event is participation
    • People can do a better job at communicating and education
  • Just because we may not enforce the rule doesn’t mean we can’t make a guideline to discourage use
  • Problems with registering lasers: Once lasers are checked in, LLC has become responsible which puts a greater liability
    • If a guideline is to be put in the Survival Guide, use a serious tone
    • Putting rules in books that aren’t enforceable weakens rules overall
    • Possible ‘new technology’ section of the Survival Guide using a proactive approach
  • Consider writing article for the Flipside Flame to get the word out
  • Consider strengthening language in Survival Guide

9:11pm MOTION TO CLOSE STACK

  • Consider adding as part of Ranger training where there is possible immediate confiscation
  • Izzi stated she will attempt to write an article on Lasers with an emphasis on talking about lasers in regards to our three principles; Responsibility, Accountability, Cooperation; If anyone is willing to help write with Izzi, you are welcome
  • Education is important; Community needs to be responsible and aware; BE THE CHANGE

Next meeting: January 5, 2015

Facilitator
Kate
Stack
Turtlebunnie
Scribe
Chim-Chim

TOPICS:

  • Calendar session January 5
  • Term limits for CC members (Doug)
  • Volunteering staffing during post-Burn (Henry)

9:28pm MEETING ADJOURNED