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CC Meeting 6/21/10
Attendees: Angelique, Patrick, Sparky, Ghost, Beth, Thomas, Sodium, Rocky, Amy Bunker, Lance, Gyesika, Prost, Flamey, Udo, !Bob, Caution, Clovis, Bean, Bonobo, Tom, Buzkill, Nobody, Psyche
Facilitator: Lance
Stack: Nobody
• Summer Schedule
o Meeting Topics:
Banning
CC Membership
Everything that went right/Flipside Wrap up
Operational Calendar
Ticketing Process & General Timeline
Event Size
Event Location
Whiteboard topics @ First meeting
Warehouse Policies and the Community use of the Warehouse
Use of official flipside money for granting
What the CC is for (after new members?)
Decomp/Leads Appreciation
What does Non-Profit mean for the event?
Paid Staff/Staff Compensation
Privacy
Burn night date
Lasers
Event Date
Townhall
Hot dogs vs. Bologna
Shirtcocking
General discussion on Rules
o Calendar:
July 12:
• New CC Membership
• Event Size and Location
• Timeline for new AFs
July 19:
• Warehouse Policies and Use
• General discussion on rules
• CC Membership announcements needs to go out
• Lasers
August 2:
• Non-Profit
• Paid Staff
• Art Grants
• Ticket Process/Timeline
August 16:
• Tentative closed meeting: CC Interviews
August 17:
• Possible Tentative closed meeting: CC Interviews
September 13:
• Tentative closed meeting: CC Interviews
September 27:
• Banning and Privacy
October 4:
• *New Members here
• Why CC?
October 18:
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November 1:
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November 15:
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November 29:
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• LLC Update
o Kit-tastic is the word that was used this year.
Kit and the Sheriff think we did a good job.
The LLC had dinner with Kit last Wednesday. He loves us.
• We have a good organization.
• He had no idea that leave no trace could actually exist.
o Last year’s conversation was a perfect storm.
This year’s flipside went really really well. It could not have gone better.
We had bad things happen.
• We had external calls.
• The landowner stayed up till 5 AM on burn night freaking out.
We did a lot of contract planning this year. We signed a contract in January.
• Previous years we sometimes signed a contract up till the day of the event.
• Policies:
o Minor policies
o Sound policies
o When we had to talk to law enforcement and land owner these policies helped us out.
• Stuff in trees – kind of a surprise, but it worked out
• Kit had no insurance for that land, but we took care of it and he is happy.
In the past we have gone to our insurance agent and they give us insurance.
• This year we had DaFT on land a week early and we needed more insurance due to the land owner lacking insurance.
• We were very close to not getting insurance.
• The underwriters went to our website and saw “Post Apocalyptic Prom”, biohazard symbols, etc. They kinda freaked out.
• We had to operate from Saturday till Tuesday under our general liability insurance.
• The list of people there had to accurate due to this issue.
• We didn’t know what the policy was until 3 days before the event.
• We had to convince the insurance that the event includes cleanup.
Sheriff likes us. Our interactions with the deputies were flawless.
• They were respectful.
• They were happy to take our money.
• They actually chased people down to help them.
• Ghost meets a deputy and his wife on Saturday night to take them on a tour. They loved it and asked about tickets.
• The sheriff’s office seems very willing to work with us.
• “It wasn’t just the boobies”
We treated a bunch of people onsite
• People don’t realize how hot it is
• People get sick
• Gwen did a fantastic job recruiting clinic and emergency PETs.
Site Prep
• Kit loves everybody that came out to this land for the event.
• Thanks to Sodium, Reese, Face, and all the people that stayed for GTFO. It is much much appreciated.
Sound
• Questions concerns and worries about sound.
• There were no complaints about sound this year.
• Kit stopped every few miles to check for sound one night, but he couldn’t hear sound past the house.
• Huge kudos to Whatamelon, Cherubick, and Sunkyst
Impression of our event/organization
• Leave No Trace – What it meant to Kit – It meant that they say they’re going to clean up. He needs to hire crews to clean up after them.
• “Thank you for doing what you said you’re going to do” – Kit
• We did for Miliam county what we said we were going to do for Miliam county.
• Kit, the Sheriff, and the county judge are cool with us going for mass gathering.
• We’re going to talk about media and personal use agreements.
Burn Night
• Everything the happened at burn night goes back to planning and site prep.
• “I have 2500 people on my land who are so fucking happy they might explode” – Kit
• There was only one ambulance and one deputy on staff that weekend.
• Burn night silliness started at about 8:30 with crazy naked guy.
• We had local gate crashers at about 1 am, a seizure about 1 am, and crazy naked guy returned at 1 am.
• We had one sheriff/ambulance call at about 11 pm.
• We had a great burn night.
• Wristbands worked out very well.
• He recognized the spiritual/tribal nature of the fire and the dancing around the fire.
Legit Art
• There have been some discussions on list about an article in a blog. The participant’s content manger liked the article and posted it across several different categories.
• This person’s personal blog entry was taken from their personal space and moved to a commercial space.
• The content manager did not take it down at the participant’s request.
• The LLC had to react. The interactions and photographs were protected like they need to be.
• Flipside Wrapup
o Tabled till the next meeting
• Leads Appreciation
o We don’t have a date yet. We are looking at two dates in July or possibly after Burning Man. Maybe the third weekend of Spetember.
o It will be some form of a campout. Leads and SOs on Friday with a Brunch. Afterwards the event would be open to volunteers by invite only.
o September is a good idea for the kinda of kickoff of the event season.
o We should try to set the date for the 2011 version before Flipside ’11.
• Townhall Date
o There has been talk about pushing things up for various reasons.
o Possibly October 16th.
o Possibly having a summer townhall to discuss some things with the community.
The community needs another opportunity to communicate with each other.
o If we have a fall townhall so late, it makes ticket and sticker design and sales more difficult. Having October 16th would give us time to have a summer town hall in July.
o Sunday after town hall would be a time to bring out their art and possibly sell their art.
o We don’t want to blur the line and allow sales at townhall. You can sell things the day after, but not at townhall.
o Maybe consider pulling in a theme camp meet and greet on Sunday as well.
o Maybe use EAST weekend for townhall
o Setup a Burner Business Board during the Burner Bizarre after townhall.
o Possibly October 2nd for townhall. This would bump it up a month.
o What about the last weekend in September?
o This shouldn’t be engraved in stone at this point. We need to allow for some change.
o Change is bad. Let’s keep it on November 6th.
o The consensus is that the date with tentatively be October 16th based on Angilique’s and the Event Coordinators availability.
o Do we need to have new CC members by town hall or is it just a nice to have?
It is important to publically acknowledge people standing up to take on things.
o Treat the fall town hall as a “recompression.” Something to put energy into such as townhall itself, and the “Burner bizarre”
o No market place on the Sabbath!
o Beth to work with Angelique to verify that October 16th works for her.
• Preliminary Event Date/Burn Night
o Lakes of Fire has their burn on Saturday.
o Why don’t we burn on Saturday, because people are burnt out on Monday when it is time to leave?
o We have the big intense night and you have to wake up the next morning and leave.
o We’ve had a tradition, and each of the days that lead up to it is important.
o If we move it to a non-3 day weekend we’d have to burn on Saturday.
o Only support moving the burn day up if the gate opens Wednesday.
o Moving the event off Memorial Day is a problem with people having time off.
o If we have the burn on Saturday what is Sunday for?
o What are the burn bans like in April vs. May?
o Major concerns with having worked DaFT and never finishing the Effigy before Friday or Saturday.
o These need to be discussed with a large cross section of the community. Maybe at Summer town hall?
o Without major game changing evidence consensus would be blocked on moving the event date.
o Are these events non-starters? No.
o Action item: We need to schedule these topics for later discussion. We need feedback by the August 2nd Meeting.
o How many heat exhaustion cases did we get over the past 10 years? Flipside and Memorial day aren’t related. Why can’t we have it at a time of the year when it is more pleasant?
o Having some time with the Effigy is important for establishing a connection with the Effigy before it is burned.
o Moving this away from a 3 day weekend. Really puts pressure on the volunteers. We are really stretching the people thin. Especially Post Op.
o We shouldn’t move the Flipside date until at Flipside.
o We shouldn’t move the event date and pass mass gathering in the same year.
• Appreciations:
o Burning Man points out people who worked really hard.
o The non-CC members who showed up tonight, we really appreciate you.
Bean, Amy Bunker, Buzzkill, Flamey, and Udo
o The LLC would like to appreciate the CC for everything it does.
Next Meeting Date: July 12th
Next Meeting Agenda:
• New CC Membership
• Event Size and Location
• Timeline for new AFs
• Community Feedback from Flipside
Next Meeting Stack: Bonobo
Next Meeting Facilitator: Clovis
Next Meeting Scribe: Gyesika