CC meeting: Mar 23, 2015


MONDAY, MARCH 23, 2015


STACK: Turtlebunnie/Bonobo

SCRIBE: Chim-Chim

TOPICS: Recycling (Pixie); Flipside without a Burn (Prost)

ATTENDEES: Problem, Adam, Danny, Olivia, Decibel, Izzi, Pixie, Turtlebunnie, Prost, Wrinn, Breezy, Princess, Chim-Chim, guest, guest 2, Henry, Monkey, Bonobo, Beth, Brently, Cydney, Clovis

7:59pm         MEETING BEGINS

8:00pm         LLC UPDATE (Adam)

  • WW weekend was cancelled this past weekend
  • Casey (Site Prep AF) –  Property in good shape; Cleanup work and maintenance are still needing to be done
  • Corral—Kit has cleared it out; twice as much useable space than last year; 80 x 130 yards; Awesome potential for art placement
  • Gate meeting will be scheduled
  • Need Leads all hands within next two weeks
  • AF meeting this coming Wednesday

8:04pm AF Update

8:05pm         TOPIC: Recycling (Pixie)

  • Thoughts on wanting to do this year?
  • Periodic topic: Theme camp started doing recycling themselves; Then, job got too big; Rolled into Earth Guardian area; Job was getting too big, again
  • There are (2) different positions now
  • Putting bins is considered in-the-past
  • Misconception—Recycling pays for itself; False belief; Not all recycling places take steel; 10 – 15 cents per ticket to cover bags $350/yr; higher or lower; Equates to 3-4 tix approx..
  • From a Volunteer standpoint—It takes 30 slots to run recycling
  • Impact on event itself—It does make a mess; Not as bad as it was last year; could have prepped better for rain
  • Impact on values and beliefs—Impacts self-reliance aspect vs. Part of don’t have self-reliance, but cooperation; Communal effort
  • From personal standpoint, it does help clean up; Helps sustainability
  • Feedback—Everyone loves recycling; Individually, some don’t like it; It’s the idea of recycling they don’t like because of the need to practice self-reliance;
  • Not as much with cans; glass issue; Cans, aluminum—choices? Simplified; Cans, cardboard, glass; Tin, steel, aluminum separate;
  • History—Didn’t used to be as separated; How much education getting out to community? As we get closer, will do more—Earth Guardians and Recycling
  • WRITE ARTICLE ON RECYCLING: Why it’s important? What do you take?
  • Some people don’t care as long as community takes care of it; Ideally, people would take care of their own stuff and thus having no site sign off at all;
  • Why should I pay 10 cents for everybody else to do it?  Part of communal effort and ethics for everyone to participate; Part of collective ethic to welcome people
  • Might not be using it, but eventually will; Convenience
  • Cooperation is one of our principles

8:27pm         Motion has been made and seconded to close stack; Motion passes

8:29pm         CC continues to support recycling; Motion and seconded; Passed

8:30pm         TOPIC: FLIPSIDE WITHOUT A BURN (Prost)

  • Milam County currently not under a burn ban
  • Insurance: Stumbling block on insurance: Insurance or no event; Don’t know insurance repercussions since Utah burn; What does Flipside look like without a Burn?
  • From insurance perspective: There is more concern with how other events handle theirs; Lawyers are more concerned about Art cars
  • A giant fire qualifies as an Obvious Hazard
  • In the past, someone has sued Burning Man; From liability standpoint, the biggest problem is a  Burn ban; There were two Flipsides (2009, 2002) where we didn’t have a Burn; Not a new reality; If Flipside continues, will have burn bans; Anyone submitting an effigy proposal will have to include a  “no burn” plan in proposal that includes a budget for hauling the effigy off the property if no burn exists
  • Question: How do we, as community, replace the catharsis we get from having a big fucking fire; we can’t put that all on daft lead to fill gap;
  • Alternative catharsis lead: Come up with someone else instead of ACL
  • Last time a burn ban came up, we had alternative solutions; However, people were unsatisfied with the solution
  • Implement Poll to the community asking for ideas
  • Alternate destruction needs
  • Consider having volunteer teams to take it apart and reduce it to several barrels; It’s not fair to put the job on Leave No Trace (LNT) department, or DAFT, in determining how the effigy is going to be moved
  • Alternative solution: Donate to Habitat for Humanity: Only whole pieces of lumber; If donating lumber is not an option, then make planters out of it: Most non-burn plans go take apart and haul and tiny thing on burn night instead
  • How to make non-burn plans better: Do whatever DAFT wants to do with it from poll
  • In 2002, “House of Cards”, there was a burn ban; The compromise consisted of the community running with sledgehammers, and taking pieces;
  • Cleanup will not disassemble effigy; DAFT does it or knocks it over;
  • Everyone enter a raffle to win effigy; and raffle for steel;
  • Alternatives: Find land for trench burning for disposal
  • Regarding the catharsis issue: DAFT came up with plans: In 2011—the idea was to destroy the  bridge by destroying its railings; Pieces would have been given to the community; Beast—saw horns off head;
  • Catharsis of freak; Face collapsed and there was a fire next to it

8:55pm         REGIONAL UPDATE (Clovis)

  • GLC in couple of weeks; Same weekend as work weekend; 2nd weekend in April
  • Meet n greet went well

8:59pm         Facilitator: Turtlebunnie

Stack: Pixie

Scribe: Chim-Chim

Topics: Cultural Appropriation (Bonobo)